Smoot, at the time and had been to Paris, some sixteen, miles away, holding a meeting. This, couldn't have been anybody but Cain. :) Such is the fate of urban legends, after all. Actually, theDevil's Auction is a pretty good book -- not great, but pretty good. He replied that he was, not, but had just met with a very remarkable personage, who had represented himself as being Cain, who murdered, his brother, Abel. I believe the Cain roaming the earth legend comes only from David Patten's second hand story as told by someone else and printed in a biography of David Patten and sited in "The Miracle of Forgiveness". Apparently, there has been a book published on just this topic. Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers, OT Law: Genesis 4:11 Now you are cursed because (Gen. Ge Gn). >Sean D. Francis (se@nwu.edu) wrote:>: Marcelo Herrera eloquently stated >: >>: >Just wondering if anyone knew about the soldier who struct christ and, >: >was cursed to wonder the earth untill the end of time. You can read about itin a rather nutty book called "The Spear of Destiny" (sorry, don't knowauthor's name). 6 Therefore a curse has consumed the earth, and its inhabitants must bear the guilt; the earths dwellers have been burned, and only a few survive. Click the answer to find similar crossword clues . When, therefore, Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, Lord, and what shall he do? Nah, its for badass Renfields that eat the flesh and drink the blood of Gods kid. Cain, the first murderer, cursed by God to wander the Earth, and marked so no one could slay him. There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, which is supposedly in some German museum. Required fields are marked *. No one can answer who it was or what was cursed in the garden. Kamenraider, thanks for the interesting anecdotes--also, especially helpful is the actual account of E. Wesley's Smith's experience--I was hoping to find it and you provided it so I didn't have to go searching! When thou tillest (literally, shalt till) the ground, it shall not henceforth yield (literally, add to give) unto thee her strength. Creators Frank Miller (based on the book by) Tom Wheeler (based on the book by) Stars Katherine Langford Devon Terrell Gustaf Skarsgrd See production, box office & company info Watch on Netflix S1 with subscription (Oh, sorry, reality intrudes ;> ), >> And if there is>>any mention of him in any of the whitewolf's books. and you're invited to watch. bring kleenex!www.speedkingrecords.ca Any answers would be>>greatly appreaciated.>> Thanks>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? but you get the point) so yes, he gets, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group. David W. Patten said that the person identified himself as Cain (Btw, does anyone think Bro. An interesting invention, given that Judas died of what appears to be acombination of hanging and seppuku. In fact, the Apocryphal book of Jubilees says that Cain died when the house he'd built of stone fell on him. Think of it more as a whole variety of power tools than merely a lone buzzsaw. Any gods that choose to cross sowards will die. Here is an account, though, given in 1983 by a seminary student as related by his teacher (after the curse was supposed to have been "removed" in 1978 and have been "no more") : --Folk Collection 8a, Group 7: Box 3, 2.4.1.5.20.1, Fife Folklore Archives, Special Collections, Merrill-Cazier Library, Utah State University, Logan UT. The reacurring idea of ancient nefarious beings in fiction like vampires who are immortal for example. Any answers would be>: >greatly appreaciated.>: > Thanks>>. This is a list of people claimed to be immortal. This is not a challenge of the veracity of, your statement, but iis this a urban myth, or is it, written down some where? On Wednesday, May 29, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Marcelo Herrera wrote: http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~sdf742/wofs.htm, http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/nilsw/index.html, http://www.comp.it.bton.ac.uk/~jcr1/wolves.html. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of>the>>>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up. Particularly when it comes to blood and the Old Testament proscriptions against drinking blood. >>Sorry, Methuselah's the fellow from before the flood.>>>>So Methuselah was an Antedeluvian? These accounts of Cain that are presented here are reminiscent of and have striking parallels and similarities to sightings of Cartaphilus a fallen immortal, of which I am aware of at least one lds historical account of early pioneers on the plains who entertained this individual who was cursed to wander the earth seeking his own redemption. By For just a moment, if we can decouple this tale from its all-too-easy association with popular vampires, we can reflect on how it compares with other parts of the Bible. but you get the point) so yes, he gets >mention in the booksjust not directly, >ri@blkbox.com (Rick Jones) writes:>>[snip]>, >>The Cross). WAKE 5. Popular vampires as descended from Eastern Europe folklore have their history so entwined with Christian symbols, that its appetizing to hunt for biblical references. This daguerreotype, taken by the Patton expedition: I understand Cain later to have died in a choking accident. He was making his. There was a series of paperbacks entitled "Casca" with the subtitle (IIRC)The Eternal Mercenary. (The Wandering Jew is>also a central character in Robert Weinberg's novel, The Devil's Auction,>but in this case he turns out to be>Judas Iscariot. Garlic? Immediately when the light appeared the person stopped and on being commanded to leave, he backed out the door. Then this saying went forth among the brethren, that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus had not said to him that he would not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? So now we have a family tree that doesnt grow in the sun and can only be watered with blood. Well, yes, I can see that, except that in the case of these beings, they were given the gift of being translated so that they could "bring souls to Christ"--I don't see Heavenly Father granting this gift of living forever to allow someone to use it for evil..that just seems out of character and outside the designs of Heavenly Father's plan and purposes--to me it sounds like fokelore. The first of murderers, now he fills his post. And now are you cursed from the earth, which has opened her mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand; Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. Moses 5:36 And now thou shalt be cursed from the earth which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand 37 When thou tillest the ground it shall not The Norns knew that. I agree, I see the folklore on Vampires as similar. You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. The tale is from the Decameron of Boccacio, and is a stone hoot. Once in Rome they veiwed the. with him, and we read it many, many times. "Poo-tee-wheet?" Miscellaneous Myths", "The legend of the wandering Jew in Europe and in Romania", "Mahavatar Babaji: The unknown 'immortal yogi', https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_claimed_to_be_immortal_in_myth_and_legend&oldid=1128430221, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2021, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2015, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 20 December 2022, at 02:38. 8:13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live.) The family immediately, observed that his countenance was quite changed. Caleb Jackson cursed to walk the Earth forever as Shiver Man Shiver Man's origins aren't completely clear, but it seems that he may have become who he is now after being cursed by a priest. The Cursed Earth is loosely defined as any areas outside of the city walls of the Mega Cities. Along, > the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named> Malkisidick(so?). ), That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse? Release date: February 2, 2022. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures throughhistory. After that, Guido Bonatti writes people saw the Wandering Jew in Forl (Italy), in the 13th century; other people saw him in Vienna and elsewhere. 2Co 5:7 NENT (for we walk through faith, not through sight) (Rom. Youd really think they would sell silver coins instead; but then Im not the marketing genius you can tell by how poorly I hashtag my tweets. The Ouija board answered yes. Job 16:18 O earth, cover not thou my blood, and let my cry have no place. Thanks Eden, after reading your post I found info. but you get the point) so>>yes, he gets >>>mention in the booksjust not directly>. as near as I can recall in the following language: "As I was riding along the road on my mule I sudden-, ly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me. While it's not important for our salvation, I do think it is important to look carefully at the things we teach and promote within the church. The Wandering Jew, often named Ahasueras>(or variations thereof) was cursed for mocking Jesus on the road to>Golgotha, or at least that's the version I read. To me, the Cain stories are examples of something I consider LDS "folklore"--outside the canon but still quite persistent in being passed down and believed. There areactually several such charicters added in later fiction because Jesuspromised that the second coming would occure before all that saw himlive had died. Or maybe dude, dont bogart the smoke maybe Jesus would become a vampire? Got me. As the shoemaker sets to work, the travellerfalls asleep.Once he's finished nailing back the heel, he notices how neat andwell-done the shoes are, and, since the traveller's still asleep,he put them on, and finds the shoes fit him perfectly. >While Jesus was caryying the cross to Golgotha, he fell and leaned >against the side of the house. SYCOPHANT 8. The _spear_ the Roman soldier used, however, has acquired a mythology. --Rick Jones "Ah. ** ====================================================================== ** My E-mail -- har@lurch.winthrop.edu OR zzha@acad.winthrop.edu ** My wholly unremarkable Home Page -- http://lurch.winthrop.edu/~harrist ** My RL Address -- 112 South First Street -- Fort Mill, SC -- 29715-9391 ** Phone 1 (803) 547 7676 -- Best after 6pm EST -- Collect calls accepted ***************************************************************************, newsgroup "Since when has deaths toped any, is "Sence when has death stop any one in the, "667; neighbor of the beast." "Wolves Glen Pub page: www: http://www.comp.it.bton.ac.uk/~jcr1/wolves.htmlMeaningless junk brought to you by: J.C.R@bton.ac.uk. Grade PGX 9.8 SS. You would think that if the curse really were removed that the mark or token of it would at least be taken off Cain (who was white to begin with) if not taken off of his posterity (who had mingled with Africans, who were undoubtedly here before Adam and already black). Thus the earth was made the minister of God's curse, not a partaker of it, as some have strangely imagined, as if by drinking up the blood of Abel it had become a participant of Cain's crime (Delitzsch). and didn't hear an answer and the door was locked so he went and called the mission pres. 1:20-27; Moses 5:16-41; 7:8, 22)--all these now have power to rise up and bless Abraham as their father. So I guess that wraps up this blog series. I never heard about him being cursed to wander the>Earth until Doomsday, though. The Crossword Solver finds answers to classic crosswords and cryptic crossword puzzles. Another take on the wandering jew can be found in Potocki's"Manuscript found in Saragossa", back in 1820-something. >The Cross). 1. President Joseph F. Smith, Salt Lake City : Dear Brother: In relation to the subject of the visit, of Cain to Brother David W. Patten in the State of Ten-, nessee, about which you wrote to me, I will say that ac-, cording to the best of my recollection it was in the month, It was in the evening, just twilight, when Brother, Patten rode up to my father's house, alighted from his, mule and came into the house. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling the man he should convert to judiasm. INFLUENCER 7. -- Daniell FreedComputer Game DesignerRaven Software Inc. _____________________________________________A solitary dancerLost upon her stage --- Savatage__________________________________________. but you get the point) soyes,>he gets >>mention in the booksjust not directly, I share your puzzlement, Kestrel. Coincidence? Here is an interesting article that might support the consideration of a certain ancient Anglo-Saxon archetype (the brutish descendant(s) of Cain) persisting into the the psyche of modern Anglo-Saxon descendants: http://ealuscerwen.wordpress.com/kin-of-cain-annotated-bib/. 1. under a curse; damned. >However when it was compared to >other sorces it matches what they said was goin on in Rome at the time >with regards to the coruptions of the Papal office and may have some >basis in fact. Maybe I'll do a little sleuthing if I have time. The Wandering Jew is a figure from Christian folklore, a Jewish man who, according to legend, taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. Finding Cassius Longus or any otherbiblical charicter in person would provide to positive an answer. He, walked along beside me for about two miles. About, the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the, name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy, Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he im-, mediately departed out of my sight. The exact nature of the wanderers indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, while sometimes he is the doorman at the estate of Pontius Pilate. Ashwathama the Kaurava warrior after the kurukshetra was cursed by Krishna 'to be immortal and roam the Whoever eats it shall be cut off. -Leviticus 17:1014. > On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17 (mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:> >There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non > >fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, > >which is supposedly in some German museum. Any answers would be>> greatly appreaciated. Can anyone show me any references (other than David Patten's story) to support this belief, that Cain is still roaming the earth, in some sort of cursed translated state? Methuzelah was a long lived sage in Genesis, I>do believe. In other words, God reserved blood for Himself, not for you lowly non-omnipotent plebes who cant even separate the Heavens from the Earth. WHAT IM SAYING IS, someone has provided a tidy explanation for the existence of vampires. I want to get it more and more BTW, this soldier appeared in the movie 'The seventh sign'. My guess is that it's such supporting accounts that President kimball also had access to when he stated the same thing. Play Cursed Free To Play Play Game About This Game In a small unnamed rural town, a girl has been missing for over 24 hours. An ancient monarch, damned to walk the earth alone, lives now in the present day. >>On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17>(mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:>>>There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non >>>fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, >>>which is supposedly in some German museum.>>>>And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end of>>WWII. It will be in stores this week. Cant remember where I heard about him but it was a while, >>ago, maybe I'll weave a lost clan around him. (how he survived the flood I do not know, perhaps Noah's raven flew over to Cain's little barge, after it did not return to the Arc, after all they are black & a very old occult omen of evil/misfortune & they rank the highest on the avarian I.Q. Would they, like, become really powerful? I don't know whether this is an authentic version of the>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up.). But it certainly is at odds with other key parts of the Bible. He's found quotes from quite a few GAs, including Church presidents, that seem to confirm they believed it and even had further experiences that confirmed it. Ashwathama the Kaurava warrior after the kurukshetra was cursed by Krishna 'to be immortal and roam the earth without love, respect and social acceptance from anyone until the end of time'. Sage Markandeya, who was granted immortality at the age of sixteen. Tithonus, who in Greek mythology was granted eternal life but not eternal youth. it's a joke, see.werehouse. The Book of Alugah relates that God revived Judas and cursed him to walk the Earth for the rest of his days, fearing the sun and living on blood. As a side story, a friend of mine mentioned a story he had read but I forget the title of the book which I believe he said was written around the 16th century(?). His eyes were very protruding and rather wild looking, his fingernails were thick and long. All of a sudden. It will be in stores this >week. Well, the burial probably helped, too-- remember Potter's Field? In the entry for the year 1223, the chronicle describes the report of a group of pilgrims who meet a certain Jew in Armenia (quendam Iudaeum) who scolded Jesus on his way to be crucified and is therefore doomed to live until the Second Coming. Guilt and/or poetic justice over what Judas had done, natch. The extended family was not to take vengeance against Cain or they would suffer seven fold the same vengeance against their own immediate loved ones. This list comprises people claimed to achieve a deathless existence on Earth. He said he was a very, miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death dur-. I can't speak for President Kimball, but he had probably run across enough evil for him to give the story the benefit of a doubt, and believe it sufficiently to use it for illustrative purposes. Of course, Sadler was mysteriously murdered while sitting in a cafe>in Mexico in 1988 (IIRC). Once in Rome they veiwed the treachery and vices which were present at the time including murders, orgies, little boys, etc. Blue, Yellow, & Bleeding: - . God then cursed this beast/animal and the curse was put on that one forever. Judas would fear the sun and be cursed to roam the land in darkness. :) Such is the fate of urban legends, after all. more or less right.of the many people who lived a long, long time in Genisis, Methusalahlived the longest. As far as I know (and care) it is probably the same one the Arc issupposedly in. Even with a mortal wound when he stole the power Athena wanted he survived. During this time with the power of Hope now given to humanity, the people of Greece have learned to move on and rebuild without the need of the Olympian Gods. The point is, its far more likely that The Book of Alugah and early vampire literature independently decided to assign traits to the vampire that would make them a stand-in for All That Is Ungodly, than it is that Judas fathered a vampire race that still walks among us. Cursed to walk this Earth by Barren, released 02 February 2022 1. home with Levi Taylor, the step-father of Abraham 0. Neither comlied, but the jew agreed to go with this man to Rome. Here is E. Wesley Smith's account of his experience with Cain the night before the dedication of the temple at Laie, Hawaii in 1921: --"Experiences with Cain," n.d., MSS 5273, LDS Church Archives. Joseph Campbell has influenced me to believe all fictional archetypes are actually only shadows of a real counterpart that really exists or has existed in the material non-fictional world, otherwise the fictional archetype could not exist. Aside: Written by Staff Sgt. Thirty years ago, the men of my wolf-shifter pack were cursed, doomed to never find http://ealuscerwen.wordpress.com/kin-of-cain-annotated-bib/. Cursed. Jesus saith to him, If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to thee? A variant of the Wandering Jew legend is recorded in the Flores Historiarum by Roger of Wendover around the year 1228. The story that he was cursed to walkthe earth till the second coming was a later addition. The roman soldier who poked Jesus is CassiusLongus (sp? Parallel Commentaries And now (because of thy crime) art thou cursed from the earth. I'm wondering if anyone has verified this story by identifying the Life magazine article he was referring to. My freind went on, > to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious, > and had always been considered fiction. They imply and suggest but never state anythingabout Jesus or his life. hrvatski. Press J to jump to the feed. In his Leimonarion, Moschos recounts meeting a monk named Isidor who had purportedly met a Malchus-type of a figure who struck Christ and is therefore punished to wander in eternal suffering and lament: I saw an Ethiopian, clad in rags, who said to me, You and I are condemned to the same punishment. I said to him, Who are you? And the Ethiopian who had appeared to me replied, I am he who struck on the cheek the creator of the universe, our Lord Jesus Christ, at the time of the Passion. The inhabitants of this region are comprised of Mutants, exiles from Mega Cities, robots, criminals and in some cases monsters, although there are small groups of normal humans dotted around the wasteland. There is a prominent and notable criminal gang operating somewhere in the Cursed Earth, the Angel Gang. Travis Parks, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, > His name was Longinus, and he was just cursed to stick around until Christ, > The Cross). It was probably not long after his arrival in Tennessee, Whitaker Chambers wrote in Life Magazine an account of his, A group of teenaged boys were playing with a Ouija board. edited to add: I noticed one of the anecdotes is provided by Rulon Allred. Who got the idea that because no one was supposed to kill Cain, he was going to live forever? 2001-2023 Last Rites. A fugitive and a vagabond - literally, moving and wandering; "groaning and trembling" (LXX., erroneously), "banished and homeless" (Keil) - shalt thou be in the earth. But now Judas is set up as a being who must live the inverted law, by only drinking blood. The Decameron is fiction, yes. Borrowing the HM2 buzzsaw fuzz predominantly associated with Swedish death metal, these Belgians describe their style as chainsaw grind. Given the death/grind carving Notify me of follow-up comments by email. A man came through the door. @aol.com "Then listen to the music, not the song. I'll be interested to hear about the "further experiences". > My freind went on >to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious >and had always been considered fiction. What reason do you believe that Cain survived the flood? scale . If youre in the know, please comment! Adventure Drama Fantasy A teenage sorceress named Nimue encounters a young Arthur on her quest to find a powerful and ancient sword. Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh. -Deuteronomy 12:23, And in those days people will seek death and will not find it. Plus, it isn't entirely inconceivable that there is a Cain cult that uses his name-title and cleverly perpetuates his occult "legacy." The first curse pronounced against a human being, Which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand, Pronoun - second person masculine singular, Verb - Qal - QalPassParticiple - masculine singular, Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that, Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person feminine singular, Noun - masculine singular construct | third person feminine singular, The mouth, edge, portion, side, according to, Preposition-l | Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct, Noun - masculine singular construct | second person masculine singular, Blood, of man, an animal, the juice of the grape, bloodshed, Preposition-m | Noun - feminine singular construct | second person masculine singular. Elsewhere they assumed that he could rest only upon a plough or that he had to be on the go all year and was allowed a respite only on Christmas.. He was tall enough to have to stoop to enter. Furthermore, if to God all things are known before their time, then Judas could have acquired his vampire gene At The Very Moment Of Betrayal. Along >the way he runs into a wandering jew who is also imortal named >Malkisidick(so?). Like the Ark of Commonwealth (or whatever it's called), you mean? There were claims of sightings of the Wandering Jew throughout Europe, since at least 1542 in Hamburg up to 1868 in Harts Corners, New Jersey.

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